Could you eat like a real paleolithic man? Or would you miss the paleo brownies and paleo beer?
Leave a comment either here or on facebook and let me know if it's something you'd consider.
Well, not much to say about this article by Julian Morgans other than click the picture, read the article, and discuss.
Could you eat like a real paleolithic man? Or would you miss the paleo brownies and paleo beer?
Leave a comment either here or on facebook and let me know if it's something you'd consider.
Assumptions about health are a dangerous thing. Someone consumes meat and later in life suffers heart disease therefore the lazy or prejudiced amongst us assume meat is the criminal. Its a pretty lazy assumption as well, for example in a local crime hotspot there may be many police officers. Does that mean they commit the crime? Its possible but more than likely not the case.
Lets look at some of the suspects in disease and ill-health.
We have meat consumption as suspect number 1. Its possible that consumption of meat may play a part, especially processed meats, but as I pointed out previously in Dietary Bigotry
Public Health Nutr. 2002 Feb;5(1):29-36.
So that kind of shifts the finger of suspicion somewhat. Who are the other suspects? Processed foods, lack of education, genetics, stress, smoking, alcohol intake, malnutrition and other lifestyle factors seem to be at the scene of the crime and should be considered before convicting meat consumption.
'It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts.'
Yesterdays post was about Dietary Bigotry which remineded me a little of that bit from the truckers chapel in the film Religulous in which the religious trucker threatens "you start disputing my god...then you gota problem".
As I said yesterday, I'm pretty liberal and am more than happy for anyone to have a faith be it religious, dietary or in fact anything they chose. Its not my place to correct or point out the error of anyones ways. We all have a personal right to make our own minds up.
However, yet again Gazza the Vegan is back pouting is hatred of my diet, the fact that he doesn't know my diet is a tad worrying but what the hell, he loves making assumptions anyway so lets join him.
Gazza frequently interchanges between the terms Paleo a dietary faith which wikipedia describes as;
The paleolithic diet (abbreviated paleo diet or paleodiet), also popularly referred to as the caveman diet, Stone Age diet and hunter-gatherer diet, is a modern nutritional plan based on the presumed ancient diet of wild plants and animals that various hominid species habitually consumed during the Paleolithic era—a period of about 2.5 million years which ended around 10,000 years ago with the development ofagriculture and grain-based diets. In common usage, such terms as the "Paleolithic diet" also refer to the actual ancestral human diet.
And the Standard American Diet (SAD) which is more a Western Pattern Diet is described as;
The Western pattern diet, also called Western dietary pattern or the meat-sweet diet, is a dietary habit chosen by many people in developed countries, and increasingly in developing countries. It is characterized by high intakes of red meat, sugary desserts, high-fat foods, and refined grains. It also typically contains high-fat dairy products, high-sugar drinks, and higher intakes of processed meat.
Not really the same are they, lots of processed meats (which I agree are bad, never have seen a corn beef cow in a field), refined grains and its also debatable where the read meat comes from...I'd imagine its more than likely it won't be pasture raised as it would be in the paleo plan.
Now Veganism is referred to by wikipedia as;
Veganism (/ˈviːgənɪzəm/) is the practice of abstaining from the use of animal products, particularly in diet, as well as an associated philosophy that rejects the commodity status ofsentient animals. A follower of veganism is known as a vegan.
So, no real mention of food quality there but we are expected by Gazza to make the assumption that vegan = health which from the lack of data (he can't find any) is simply a lie. Maybe he wasn't lying initially, maybe his judgement was clouded by his faith. So, all in all a vegan diet may be as health as SAD or it may be as healthy as the paleo diet. Remember I'm not a paleo fan, I just use it for the purpose of this description as its one of the two that Mr Mabs refers to.
So what could we start our vegan day with? I've asked Mr Mabs several times to do you all a post about what he eats but it he hasn't been very forthcoming with it.
Breakfast - Vegan French Toast
6 slices of stale white wheat toast (yeah super healthy cheap white bread, we're vegans on a budget)
1 Cup. unsweetened soymilk (we touched on dirty soy previously)
3 T. garbanzo (or chickpea) flour (Mmmm)
1 T. cornstarch or arrowroot
1 T. pure maple syrup, couple dashes of cinnamon. (Not got a problem with the syrup)
Not the ideal start to the day maybe but we're still vegan and doing well.
Lets have a pack of crisps
Burt's Chips are 40gram packs is suitable for vegans and vegetarians. Per 100grams is 214kcal. Ingredients are potato, dirty and dangerous sunflower oil and sea salt.
Give yourself a pat on the back, so far you've eaten a pretty processed diet.
Lets nip to Pizza Hut and see what we can chow down on
The Thin 'n Crispy crusts, regular pizza sauce, spaghetti marinara sauce, pasta, Italian and French dressings, dessert pizza crust, cherry topping and the icing are all options for vegans. Enjoy!!!
Lets get ourselves a Seitan Cheesesteaks on a roll. What the hell is seitan I hear you ask? Well wikipedia is hear to help again;
Wheat gluten, also called seitan, wheat meat, mock duck, gluten meat, or simply gluten, is afood made from gluten, the main protein of wheat. It is made by washing wheat flour dough with water until all the starch dissolves, leaving insoluble gluten as an elastic mass which is then cooked before being eaten.
Its manmade food heaven, nothing beats pretending to eat meat with something manufactured.
Stuff it, lets fill our faces with the vegan onion rings in the picture above.
Its approaching bedtime so lets finish with a little bedtime drink;
Alpro's Almond Milk contains: Water, Sugar, Tri-calcium Phosphate, Sea Salt, Stabilisers (Locust Bean Gum & Gellan Gum), Emulsifier (Sunflower Lecithin), Vitamins (Riboflavin (B2), B12, E, D2). The actual almond content is 2%.
A delightful end to a wonderful vegan day.
Sure I've been a tad contentious in making these grand assumptions about a possible vegan diet, however it is just intended to show that while a diet of natural foods is possible on both. Equally its easy to eat a highly processed junk laiden diet no matter what faith you follow.
The moral of the story...don't make assumptions! Oh and leave people to make their own life choices.
I'm all for anyone being able to consume the diet they want to. If your vegan good on you, if your paleo congratulations. If you visit weightwatchers, rather you than me but its your choice. Sure if you seek my advice then I'll give it you (after I've tested you and collected as much data as possible). However, I hate it when someone pushes their beliefs upon me. If someone knocks at my door and tries to convert me to anything I'm usually not too happy about it.
Unsolicited advice isn't always bad, but in general knock on my door and start talking to me about swapping my gas supplier, becoming religious, or swapping my diet and I'll consider it rude. Equally if you message me with no previous contact telling me the error of my ways I'll find it pretty offensive.
And so, once again Gazza the vegan is back telling me the error of my ways. [Check out all the old posts about his twitter campaign] As mentioned before he frequently posts odd statements (often they make little sense) that he later either back tracks from or argues and argues but keeps avoiding the main question I pose. What is that question?
"Gary, where is the statistically significant data that backs up your statements?"
It never appears because it does not exist.
During these twitter debates he interchanges between referring to meat eaters and the SAD (standard american diet), meaning he thinks that someone who eats pasture raised meats is the same as someone munching crisps, pork pies and takeaways, washed down with soft drinks and the odd cigarette. Their is a major difference between someone who follows paleo (remember I'm also not a fan of paleo) and your average American or Brit that sits chowing down on takeaways regularly.
It must be pointed out that whilst those following a less processed vegan diet will no doubt have less incidences of poor health than someone eating cake and crisps it does little to prove the dangers of meat. It just leaves the finger pointing straight at processed foods. Someone eating naturally raised meats who avoids the very same processed foods will also have less risk of disease.
Assuming that all meat eaters suffer poor health because they eat the Standard American Diet is no different to me assuming that all vegans live on bread, cake, soy and diet coke...obviously they don't (no doubt some do). However it is possible to live a vegan diet that is highly processed, so going vegan does not equal health as Mr Mabs claims.
Generally it is accepted that avoiding highly processed foods that often contain GMO-derived foods, hydrogenated vegetable oil, aspartame, ascorbic acid, citric acid, natural and artificial flavorings, high fructose corn syrup, hydrolyzed vegetable protein, xanthan gum, monosodium glutamate, sucrose, and yeast products is a good way to improve your chances of maintaining your health.
The following study shows that British vegetarians do have low mortality compared with the general population (but remember that the general population eats highly processed foods). Their death rates are similar to those of COMPARABLE non-vegetarians, suggesting that much of this benefit may be attributed to non-dietary lifestyle factors such as a low prevalence of smoking and a generally high socio-economic status, or to aspects of the diet other than the avoidance of meat and fish.
Mortality in British Vegetarians [Public Health Nutr. 2002] PubMed - NCBI
So why the perpetual state of indignation and anger? (remember not I'm not suggesting all vegans and vegetarians are this way, I know many that aren't. Its just that I keep getting tweeted by one or two that are).
Well here's a great article about vegan aggression and some other articles about some pretty evil vegans. Should make me glad that Gary hasn't quite got that angry yet in his quest to convert the world to his faith.
My main area of interest in diets is starvation (Mr Mabs seems to assume I'm a paleo fan for some reason) and I have an avid hatred of diets in general. Low calorie (of which veganism is for most people) leads to many many issue which are discussed here
What symptoms can we expect?
• Decreased heart volume
• Slowed pulse rate (and almost certainly low body temperature and raised cortisol)
• Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) reduced by 40%. Just what you need if your concerned about weight!!
• Voluntary movements became slower. Your thyroid is regulating (slowing) your energy expenditure.
• Subjects felt and acted older
• Increase in apathy and depression.
• Sensitivity to noise. The body is overloaded and doesn't have enough energy to cope.
• General feeling of ineffectiveness.
• Loss of ambition and narrowing of interests. We no doubt conserve ourselves for important actions.
• Increased neuroticism and hysteria.
• Almost 20% of the subjects suffered severe “character neuroses” and 2 bordered on both violent and hysteria psychoses.
• Increased interest and preoccupation with food (talking, preparing, making meals last longer using a variety of methods such as sucking food).
• Heightened craving for food. Is it any wonder when we starve ourselves.
• Became possessive about food.
• Increased gum chewing, smoking, drinking of coffee and tea, and nail biting which also links in well with increased cortisol secretion.
• Purchased useless items and/or hoarded money. Clothes, foods, shoes, handbags, I see it all.
• Some escaped and binged with feelings of guilt (some followed by vomiting)
• Responsiveness, tolerance, happiness, and good humor gradually disappeared, very irritable and with only sarcastic humor remaining.
• Reluctance to participate in group activities. Not wanting to go to work etc and when they do resorting to the above.
• Self-centered and egocentric
• Food central topic of conversation, such as the need to cut back, avoid fats, craving cake or chocolate and discussing it with ones friends.
• Not able to control emotions, tears, tantrums, anger are all hard to control.
So, all in all the obsessive, self centered and bigoted "my diet is better than your diet, even though I don't know about your diet", is very interesting to me (I class it as a symptom of starvation). So for those of you wondering why I don't just ignore him, well its all forming into a fascinating potential research project.
Anyhow whatever your diet, feel free to eat what you like and don't pressure others into joining you unless they express an interest. Do not be a dietary bigot, others beliefs are just as valid to them as yours are to you.
Today's question of the day was "Is Soy a safe alternative to Dairy?"
The short answer is "no", the moderately longer answer is "no, as its incredibly high in phytoestrogens, which are plant-based estrogens that mimic estrogen in our bodies. Which given that estrogen dominance is a major factor in breast cancer, endometriosis, uterine fibroids, infertility, and low libido, it makes any food thats high in estrogen public enemy number 1.
You may wonder why its allowed to be sold, why soy baby formula that is the equivalent of 4 birth control pills per day is allowed on the market. Profit and marketing is a wonderful thing if your in the business of selling a cheap product for maximum profit, to an unsuspecting public.
So, if someone offers you soy milk in your morning coffee, point out that its soy juice (have you ever seen anyone milking a legume?) and that you have enough estrogen already.
We've talked before about pork products getting into everyday life. From both my research/training and clinical experience, pork is one of the most harmful foods to health, so I tend to make avoiding it wherever possible an important lesson for any new client. So, lets take a look where else they might show up in the medical world and see why poor old Porky Pig just fattens the profits of the pharmaceutical industry by not only decreasing health, but also providing a cheap source for producing the drugs that are supposed to "cure" our ill-health.
PIG ADRENAL GLANDS
Blood Fibrin---Fetal Pig Plasma---Plasmin
PIG GALL BLADDER
Pig heart valves, specially preserved and treated, are surgically implanted in humans to replace heart valves weakened by disease or injury.
PIG PANCREAS GLAND
Pig pancreas glands provide a source of insulin hormone which is used to treat diabetics as its chemical structure closely resembles that of humans.
PIG THYROID GLAND
Porcine Burn Dressings---Gelatin
Specially selected and treated pig skin, because of its similarity to human skin, is used in treating massive burns in humans, injuries that have removed large areas of skin and in healing persistent skin ulcers.
PIG PINEAL GLAND
PIG PITUITARY GLAND
Sticking Agent---Leather Treating Agents
Plywood Adhesive---Protein Source in Feeds
Fabric Printing & Dyeing
And a few other products
PIG BONES & SKIN
Glue---Pigskin Garments---Gloves & Shoes
PIG DRIED BONES
PIG BONE MEAL
Mineral Source in Feed---Fertilizer
Porcelain Enamel---Glass---Water Filters
PIG GALL STONES
PIG FATTY ACIDS & GLYCERINE
Insecticides---Floor Waxes---Weed Killers
Once again we come back to the vegan story, not all vegans think and act in such an aggressive manner so remember when reading this post that this is in response to a few vegans that have taken an aggressive stance to my decision not to follow their belief/cult/religion. The majority of vegan's are peace loving, friendly people who are happy to let people live their own lives. So don't go vegan hating unless one attempts to convert you against your will.
One of the things frequently thrown at me (and others) is that meat kills the planet. We've all seen the propaganda messages about cows trumping and burping and vegan propaganda would have us believe that meat eaters are to blame. Ah if only it were that simple. Factory farming is a relatively new process and it is one in which animals are typically fed grain. Grain was domesticated around 12,000 years ago (a blink in the evolutionary eye) whilst the cows predecessors the aurochs were around for an estimated two million years before that (another blink in the evolutionary eye). Grain is not the proper diet of cattle, it will increase growth rates (kerching ££££) but it will also cause them to be diseased. So I agree that factory farmed meat is not a good thing either for my own health or that of the planet.
So why do these voracious vegans treat all meat eaters with such hostility? Even the ones who eat grass fed locally raised meats? Well to them an animal still dies, sadly the cycle of life dictates that we all die someday, even a catabolic vegan but that's just not good enough.
Lets take a look at the vegan lifestyle and see if it possibly still has blood on its hands?
Do vegans ask what died in the production of their food, I doubt it very much. Agriculture is possibly the most destructive thing that we as human beings do to our planet. Growing grain and other foods frequently destroys whole ecosystems, if the world were to turn vegan where would we grow all the extra food required? Ah to hell with it, we'd destroy some more ecosystems and then wipe the blood from our hands...at least we don't eat meat.
People point to the facts that it takes it takes 12-16 pounds of grain to make 1 pound of beef, but remember cattle should not consume beef. Grass fed cows eat no grain and oddly enough have less impact on the environment than mass agriculture. So we can safely say that industrial scale agriculture is the real culprit of the degradation of our plant, not as vegans want us to believe due to meat eaters.
As I've stated before the argument that "meat kills", "meat ruins the environment" etc simply doesn't stand up to much. Comparing McDondald's meat to grass fed locally reared is like me comparing heavily processed soy crops that damage whole ecosystems with someone who buys fresh veg from their local farm. The only way I'd use that argument is if I was so blinkered about my beliefs that I just wanted to argue that crops kill the planet....
Its been a busy week this week, I've been accused by a vegan of pushing health assessments upon people, of being professor of nothing, and that I am a quack. To start with lets break them down.
Pushing Health Assessments;
I don't really push anything, I should push things but I'm more the kind of person that allows people to find me. Maybe its my Asperger's or maybe I'm just not a born salesperson, but I just refuse to cold call people and push my service upon them. You only have to ask my former bosses at Virgin Active or the many clients that have asked me to contact their friend to find out that "you must ask me about my help" I will not just contact people pushing my opinions. On top of that I find it bizarre that I'm accused of pushing anything when I'm faced with a vegan pushing his opinions upon me, remember I never contacted them. I just got spammed way back in 2011 and dared to ask for proof. Since then its been game of tennis with me asking for proof of the original statement and then various attempts to divert the debate such as calling my qualifications into question. Once again, remember that I just questioned the original statement and wanted proof, I made no attempt to stop anyone being a vegan (why would I, most are wonderful loving people) I just asked said that if your going to spam me with agressive vegan propaganda, be prepared to prove it. I'm still waiting...the game is afoot.
Secondly I don't understand what the issue is with assessing health? Whether we utilise a BioHealth #101 Metabolic Assessment Profile or complete one of the many in house assessments, it all helps build a picture. The other option is guessing which is what I assume the majority seem to do. Which would I rather do?? Well the answer to that is obvious, but which would you rather me do if you sought my help? Vegan diet is so I'm told a lifestyle, its seems to be a generic one thats apparently one size fits all. I doubt that exists but who am I to question the faith.
Being a professor of nothing and my quackery;
Now this is an odd one, I've never claimed to be a professor (i'd love to be one at some point but I'm not sure I could tie myself down to the rigidity of it all), so I'm not sure where that came from, especially from a Personal Trainer with a B.S (his words not mine) in Sports Science. I'm half way through a MSc in Psychology but my interest in that stems from wanting to understand the peculiarities of the human mind, and how it relates to people's need to control food intake (extreme dieters, those with eating disorders etc which extreme vegans could be classed as).
I'm not into pharmacuticals, not my trade but I appreciate that medicine has a place especially in acute illness, less so in chronic conditions which could be often far better managed through better diet and lifestyle management. So I don't aspire to be a Medical Doctor, only to work alongside them when needed to help individuals who seek my assistence.
"From the Astrologer came the Astronomer, from the Alchemist came the Chemist, from the Mesmerist came the Mental Specialist. The Charlatan is always the Pioneer. The Quack of Yesterday is the Professor of Tomorrow."
Dr Joseph Bell
Its now 11:30am on Sunday morning, just 1 hour after I started this blog post (I know I know, several distractions mainly lunch preparations and gazing at Daisy to check she's ok) and I've had yet another accusation of quackery. This time its from VoraciousVegan on twitter. This man/woman is a friend of Gary Mabs, he/she claimed to only know them via twitter yet knew I was referring to our friend from 2011 Gazzais Vegan whose recently started his propaganda mission once again to try and turn me to the darkside.
Quite ironic that the initials are VV considering the VV most of us all know, maybe she'll get involved at some point in the tweeting :-). VV2 wants to know my methods yet can't give me any specifics such as a problem he/she has so I can't really pinpoint where we'd need to start. Its a brave move calling me out on my failing to study at a medical school (other than 2008-2009 when I was frequently in lectures at QMC) when I've made it clear I have no desire to study medicine, I've also made it clear that I don't believe anyone should dictate a diet, not even a doctor but especially not someone is so hooked on a lifestyle and believes that it generically fits everyone. These vegan fanatics seem to follow the same logic as religious fanatics or even the school kids at school who wanted you to join the smokers club. Group think is a wonderful tool for a lack of independent thinking.
Considering this, its more likely that the extreme vegan is the quack (depending upon the reasons behind the lifestyle such as political, religious etc). Often vegan dieters base their choice upon faith rather than fact (wow a faith healer quack quack).
So, if I'm a quack, so be it. I'd rather take a considered evidence based approach to my own health and that of those that seek my opinion than to rely upon faith. If your a vegan and likely to comment could you please also include your real name, age etc and the reasons behind why your on a vegan diet, it makes it much more easy to understand your rationale.
Yours Billy "Donald" Craig
He's back, and this time he's accusing me of posting "unfounded, unresearched information" and then admitting it. This from a man that about 9-10 months ago spammed me with a message that animal fat kills, yet he can't or won't prove it. Possibly he can't prove it because no such evidence in exists.
Check out the last post and see if you can see where I post unfounded and un-researched information. It seems poor old Gary may be a tad confused.
Anyway, I thought I'd give him a few tips on evidence based research seeing as he seems to be really struggling finding the data to back up his belief/faith. I know Gary has studied Sport Science, but that may of been a while ago. Admittedly I am a Professor of Nothing as Gary stated on Sunday night, so please do your own reading around the topic. Oh and once again, I'm not hating on Vegan's, I'm happy for anyone to do their own thing, write about their own thing and live their own life. However, diets are much like religion, people frequently want to indoctrinate others. If you want to spam me with your faith/belief in a madcap diet or religion, at least have the decency to provide some evidence. If you can't prove that either god exists or that meat kills, keep it to yourself.
Remember, "getting sick is easy. All you have to do is read some books and websites on health and nutrition, create rules for eating based on what you think is 'good' or 'bad,' and follow those rules at all costs even when your body screams at you to stop."
Step 1 Formulate an Answerable Question
So, the question is "does animal fat kill?" Kind of a hard one to answer, as mentioned previously, do we force two groups to live in a lab with stress free conditions, no access to sugar, cigarettes etc etc whilst one eats just meat and one eats just bread?
Then what do we do? Is the quality of the bread important? Does it need to be organic? Should the grain be killed in a humane way? Killed directly in the field or do we pull the whole plant up and leave it to slowly die off? I've seen evidence of this vegan butchery in my local supermarket, poor plants left to die. Or will someone state that its not a true representation if one only eats bread?
Equally does meat quality matter, do our participants eat bacon and sausage, pepperami (its a bit of an animal) or do we feed them high quality pasture raised meats from animals that have been healthy? In the field of research it all matters Gary so the question needs a bit more work before we can truly answer it.
Check out the previous post on this topic
Step 2 Information Search
Now I really struggle on this one, and so does Gary. There just isn't a lot of data out there. Sure we have the China Study, but as you can see in this post about the China Study it is very very poor and actually disproves the theory. There was a Dr that Mr Mabs mentioned, but he was just selling a book and had no actual evidence other than hearsay. Even when pressed for peer reviewed research (not always that great either) the Doctors representatives just told Gazza that "all Fat kills", which he promptly (and rightly so) ignored. He just loves chewing is hemp seeds into hemp oil too much and wasn't willing to be that strict. Maybe I should spam him with hemp oil kills messages and warn him of the dangers of too much pufa in the diet...nah I'm not a dietary fanatic out to ruin his faith.
Step 3 Review of Information and Critical Appraisal
So, when we review the info we find that even we just can't find any proof (and neither can Gary. Have a review of this post to look at the lack of data and a little appraisal of Ancel Key's work.
To add to this I'm now being accused of ignoring things because it doesn't fit in with my state conditioned beliefs, and that I'm illiterate. Firstly Professor Mabs I have Asperger's Syndrome and Dyslexia, so maybe I'm not the best at literacy, but I'm pretty good (not a professor you understand) at researching health based topics and reviewing them (its why I'm patiently waiting for your data). My spelling and grammar has nothing to do with the topic in question i.e does animal fat kill. However it is another handy way to divert the attention from your lack of evidence isn't it.
Secondly, you don't know my beliefs. You just assume I'm some sort of caveman because I include meat in my diet from time to time. Grow up, if you are going to make a statement at least have the decency to admit it is based upon your preferences and not upon factual evidence. If you continue to insist it is based upon fact then produce the facts...otherwise grow some balls, man up, admit you were wrong. Then continue to eat your veggies and let other do as they wish. Stop tweeting and spamming your anger.
So to conclude, Gazza its great to hear you're still alive, I hope you've not been sick for the last 6 months, and that your sudden reappearance is due to the fact that you forgot that I asked for PROOF and not myths and lies. I appreciate your comments on my blog, but they are a little long in the tooth. How many more times can I ask you for proof and then watch as you ignore it and fire back another statement. Write me a proper article and I'll post it. This can be about why you ENJOY living the way you do or if you choose you can make it about why you think animal fat kills, however please include some statistically significant evidence.
"The trouble with the world
is that the stupid are cocksure
and the intelligent are full of doubt."
— Bertrand Russell
As ever, in the world of internet nutrition less competent people continue to rate their competence higher than it is. Don't get me wrong, we've all been there. I trained at the CHEK institute where they specialised in schooling us in a very cocksure but unscientific nutrition coaching method.
However, whilst I had cognitive bias I never forced it unwillingly upon people and if challenged I was always open to debate. That's how I got to where I am now, by being challenged and recognising that I wasn't and never will be the authority, or as Mabs referred to me, the Professor of Nothing. Sadly for all of us, he displays the Dunning-Kruger Effect probably better than anyone I've had the pleasure of meeting online.
Dunning-Kruger research suggest the competent overestimate others’ skill levels, but that the incompetent overestimate their own skill level and they lack the ability to recognise their own incompetence. In Gazza's case he could do with becoming better at evaluating his own limitations, or learning to keep quiet.
Kruger, J., and Dunning, D. (1999). Unskilled and unaware of it: How difficulties in recognizing one's own incompetence lead to inflated self-assessments.Journal of Personality and Social Psychology. 77(6):1121-1134.
Guess whose back throwing down yet more accusations and bitchiness? It's only Gazza the Vegan...
Way back on the 4th November 2011 I got spammed (ironic) by a vegan called Gazza who wanted to enlighten me about his faith. I didn't ask for his advice but I received it, so you'd think I'd be entitled to ask for something of substance to back up his outlandish claims. Naturally I responded to the outlandish claims and pointed out a few facts, such as the complete lack of evidence to back up his claim. From my point of view I was neither arguing for nor against meat consumption, I just hate it when people go all high and mighty with no good reason.
You can read the post from November 2011 by clicking here and the whole saga of posts here in which he claimed stuff and I asked for PROOF. You can see his most recent response that he came back with today July 2012 below. Its obviously been bothering him all this time...
Bit of a random post, maybe high on hemp seed oil but what the hell its bound make a few of you laugh. My original post made no mention of a congenital birth disorder (McKeith has a scoliosis which I can't find out if it is actual congenital) I just said she looks terrible which is the general consensus amongst most of the public. Her skin is terrible and she lacks muscle tone and looks terribly gaunt...thats without doing any clinical tests on her. However, Gazza thinks I'm picking on her in an attempt to sell animal products, random accusation but hey ho, if he's buying I'm selling.
Next we move to the fact that he claims I've written B.S because I'm a professor of nothing to be exact. Well Gazza, you really are coming across a bit dim again, I've never claimed to be a professor (maybe one day fingers crossed), all I did was look at some data that doesn't back up your claim. You on the other hand were either too lazy to find proof, or it simply isn't true. In all these months you've struggled to find any significant data which backs up the B.S that you spammed me and many others with.
Either grow some balls and admit you have no proof and that its just your opinion, in which case stop pushing your opinion on others, or bring out the statistically significant data which backs up your animal fat kills statement...in other words, as usual prove it.
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