He's back, and this time he's accusing me of posting "unfounded, unresearched information" and then admitting it. This from a man that about 9-10 months ago spammed me with a message that animal fat kills, yet he can't or won't prove it. Possibly he can't prove it because no such evidence in exists.
Check out the last post and see if you can see where I post unfounded and un-researched information. It seems poor old Gary may be a tad confused.
Anyway, I thought I'd give him a few tips on evidence based research seeing as he seems to be really struggling finding the data to back up his belief/faith. I know Gary has studied Sport Science, but that may of been a while ago. Admittedly I am a Professor of Nothing as Gary stated on Sunday night, so please do your own reading around the topic. Oh and once again, I'm not hating on Vegan's, I'm happy for anyone to do their own thing, write about their own thing and live their own life. However, diets are much like religion, people frequently want to indoctrinate others. If you want to spam me with your faith/belief in a madcap diet or religion, at least have the decency to provide some evidence. If you can't prove that either god exists or that meat kills, keep it to yourself.
Remember, "getting sick is easy. All you have to do is read some books and websites on health and nutrition, create rules for eating based on what you think is 'good' or 'bad,' and follow those rules at all costs even when your body screams at you to stop."
Step 1 Formulate an Answerable Question
So, the question is "does animal fat kill?" Kind of a hard one to answer, as mentioned previously, do we force two groups to live in a lab with stress free conditions, no access to sugar, cigarettes etc etc whilst one eats just meat and one eats just bread?
Then what do we do? Is the quality of the bread important? Does it need to be organic? Should the grain be killed in a humane way? Killed directly in the field or do we pull the whole plant up and leave it to slowly die off? I've seen evidence of this vegan butchery in my local supermarket, poor plants left to die. Or will someone state that its not a true representation if one only eats bread?
Equally does meat quality matter, do our participants eat bacon and sausage, pepperami (its a bit of an animal) or do we feed them high quality pasture raised meats from animals that have been healthy? In the field of research it all matters Gary so the question needs a bit more work before we can truly answer it.
Check out the previous post on this topic
Step 2 Information Search
Now I really struggle on this one, and so does Gary. There just isn't a lot of data out there. Sure we have the China Study, but as you can see in this post about the China Study it is very very poor and actually disproves the theory. There was a Dr that Mr Mabs mentioned, but he was just selling a book and had no actual evidence other than hearsay. Even when pressed for peer reviewed research (not always that great either) the Doctors representatives just told Gazza that "all Fat kills", which he promptly (and rightly so) ignored. He just loves chewing is hemp seeds into hemp oil too much and wasn't willing to be that strict. Maybe I should spam him with hemp oil kills messages and warn him of the dangers of too much pufa in the diet...nah I'm not a dietary fanatic out to ruin his faith.
Step 3 Review of Information and Critical Appraisal
So, when we review the info we find that even we just can't find any proof (and neither can Gary. Have a review of this post to look at the lack of data and a little appraisal of Ancel Key's work.
Check out the last post and see if you can see where I post unfounded and un-researched information. It seems poor old Gary may be a tad confused.
Anyway, I thought I'd give him a few tips on evidence based research seeing as he seems to be really struggling finding the data to back up his belief/faith. I know Gary has studied Sport Science, but that may of been a while ago. Admittedly I am a Professor of Nothing as Gary stated on Sunday night, so please do your own reading around the topic. Oh and once again, I'm not hating on Vegan's, I'm happy for anyone to do their own thing, write about their own thing and live their own life. However, diets are much like religion, people frequently want to indoctrinate others. If you want to spam me with your faith/belief in a madcap diet or religion, at least have the decency to provide some evidence. If you can't prove that either god exists or that meat kills, keep it to yourself.
Remember, "getting sick is easy. All you have to do is read some books and websites on health and nutrition, create rules for eating based on what you think is 'good' or 'bad,' and follow those rules at all costs even when your body screams at you to stop."
Step 1 Formulate an Answerable Question
So, the question is "does animal fat kill?" Kind of a hard one to answer, as mentioned previously, do we force two groups to live in a lab with stress free conditions, no access to sugar, cigarettes etc etc whilst one eats just meat and one eats just bread?
Then what do we do? Is the quality of the bread important? Does it need to be organic? Should the grain be killed in a humane way? Killed directly in the field or do we pull the whole plant up and leave it to slowly die off? I've seen evidence of this vegan butchery in my local supermarket, poor plants left to die. Or will someone state that its not a true representation if one only eats bread?
Equally does meat quality matter, do our participants eat bacon and sausage, pepperami (its a bit of an animal) or do we feed them high quality pasture raised meats from animals that have been healthy? In the field of research it all matters Gary so the question needs a bit more work before we can truly answer it.
Check out the previous post on this topic
Step 2 Information Search
Now I really struggle on this one, and so does Gary. There just isn't a lot of data out there. Sure we have the China Study, but as you can see in this post about the China Study it is very very poor and actually disproves the theory. There was a Dr that Mr Mabs mentioned, but he was just selling a book and had no actual evidence other than hearsay. Even when pressed for peer reviewed research (not always that great either) the Doctors representatives just told Gazza that "all Fat kills", which he promptly (and rightly so) ignored. He just loves chewing is hemp seeds into hemp oil too much and wasn't willing to be that strict. Maybe I should spam him with hemp oil kills messages and warn him of the dangers of too much pufa in the diet...nah I'm not a dietary fanatic out to ruin his faith.
Step 3 Review of Information and Critical Appraisal
So, when we review the info we find that even we just can't find any proof (and neither can Gary. Have a review of this post to look at the lack of data and a little appraisal of Ancel Key's work.
To add to this I'm now being accused of ignoring things because it doesn't fit in with my state conditioned beliefs, and that I'm illiterate. Firstly Professor Mabs I have Asperger's Syndrome and Dyslexia, so maybe I'm not the best at literacy, but I'm pretty good (not a professor you understand) at researching health based topics and reviewing them (its why I'm patiently waiting for your data). My spelling and grammar has nothing to do with the topic in question i.e does animal fat kill. However it is another handy way to divert the attention from your lack of evidence isn't it.
Secondly, you don't know my beliefs. You just assume I'm some sort of caveman because I include meat in my diet from time to time. Grow up, if you are going to make a statement at least have the decency to admit it is based upon your preferences and not upon factual evidence. If you continue to insist it is based upon fact then produce the facts...otherwise grow some balls, man up, admit you were wrong. Then continue to eat your veggies and let other do as they wish. Stop tweeting and spamming your anger.
So to conclude, Gazza its great to hear you're still alive, I hope you've not been sick for the last 6 months, and that your sudden reappearance is due to the fact that you forgot that I asked for PROOF and not myths and lies. I appreciate your comments on my blog, but they are a little long in the tooth. How many more times can I ask you for proof and then watch as you ignore it and fire back another statement. Write me a proper article and I'll post it. This can be about why you ENJOY living the way you do or if you choose you can make it about why you think animal fat kills, however please include some statistically significant evidence.
"The trouble with the world
is that the stupid are cocksure
and the intelligent are full of doubt."
— Bertrand Russell
As ever, in the world of internet nutrition less competent people continue to rate their competence higher than it is. Don't get me wrong, we've all been there. I trained at the CHEK institute where they specialised in schooling us in a very cocksure but unscientific nutrition coaching method.
However, whilst I had cognitive bias I never forced it unwillingly upon people and if challenged I was always open to debate. That's how I got to where I am now, by being challenged and recognising that I wasn't and never will be the authority, or as Mabs referred to me, the Professor of Nothing. Sadly for all of us, he displays the Dunning-Kruger Effect probably better than anyone I've had the pleasure of meeting online.
Dunning-Kruger research suggest the competent overestimate others’ skill levels, but that the incompetent overestimate their own skill level and they lack the ability to recognise their own incompetence. In Gazza's case he could do with becoming better at evaluating his own limitations, or learning to keep quiet.
Reference:
Kruger, J., and Dunning, D. (1999). Unskilled and unaware of it: How difficulties in recognizing one's own incompetence lead to inflated self-assessments.Journal of Personality and Social Psychology. 77(6):1121-1134.
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